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INTERVIEW: ARC Aerosystems CEO Seyed Mohseni shares more insight into company’s LINX P9 aircraft following unveiling

UK start­up ARC Aerosys­tems — for­mer­ly SAMAD Aero­space — unveiled its LINX P9 air­craft at the Air Finance Jour­nal event in Dublin, which it claims could be the ‘miss­ing link’ in achiev­ing Advanced Air Mobil­i­ty.

As report­ed by eVTOL Insights on Jan­u­ary 20th, the LINX P9 is designed to car­ry nine pas­sen­gers. It offers a 40 per cent more cost-effec­tive alter­na­tive to heli­copters (based on the DARPA mod­el) and 30 per cent increased range com­pared to sim­i­lar size ‘copters (based on the Roskam method).

We spoke to com­pa­ny CEO Seyed Mohseni to gain more insight on the back­ground behind the air­craft, its roadmap to cer­ti­fi­ca­tion and the company’s future plans.

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Can you talk to us about the back­ground behind the LINX P9 and the rea­sons behind its launch?

Seyed Mohseni: “We’ve been focused on devel­op­ment of VTOL air­craft and build­ing scale pro­to­types of the e‑Starling, which was a lift cruise design con­fig­u­ra­tion. Dur­ing the process of build­ing sev­en dif­fer­ent gen­er­a­tions of air­craft, we were doing a lot of research and devel­op­ment work.

“From that, we had two unmanned air­craft spin off which are now called C150 and C600; 150 and 600 are the max­i­mum take-off weight (MTOW). The C150 can car­ry 30kg of pay­load, while the C600 mod­el can trans­port 150kg. We con­duct­ed the design, build­ing and test­ing of the full-size pro­to­type and that devel­op­ment will con­tin­ue. 

“Part of the tran­si­tion of the name from SAMAD Aero­space to ARC Aerosys­tems was the in-depth analy­sis that we con­duct­ed in regards to what the real need is of the Advanced Air Mobil­i­ty mar­ket.

“What are the oppor­tu­ni­ties, chal­lenges and con­straints we have to over­come? Dur­ing that process, we took about a year to con­duct a very thor­ough assess­ment and con­clud­ed that the low-hang­ing fruit in the mar­ket is in region­al air mobil­i­ty. 

“Our company’s core val­ue is to deliv­er solu­tions that have real envi­ron­men­tal impact to net zero tar­gets. By look­ing for a solu­tion that is afford­able, safe, ver­sa­tile, applic­a­ble and can deliv­er val­ue now.

“Region­al air mobil­i­ty demands longer range and it requires the air­craft to be inde­pen­dent as much as pos­si­ble of infra­struc­ture, so we had to look for a solu­tion that can achieve longer ranges but be less depen­dent on the extra infra­struc­ture require­ment. Whilst we keep the VTOL capac­i­ty, which is the key val­ue we want to deliv­er because we wouldn’t need air­ports.

“The oth­er aspect was the con­straints of the cer­ti­fi­ca­tion. The SC-VTOL from EASA requires a strin­gent safe­ty lev­el sim­i­lar to a com­mer­cial air­line and this is also sim­i­lar to the FAA as well.

“The e‑Starling was a four- to five-seater air­craft and we esti­mat­ed the cost of cer­ti­fi­ca­tion through this SC-VTOL path­way or FAA equiv­a­lent ver­sion to be about $2 bil­lion. Look­ing at the eco­nom­ics, it just wouldn’t make sense. 

“So first of all, we said we want­ed to avoid the SC-VTOL cri­te­ria and go into region­al air mobil­i­ty, so the LINX P9 is a gen­er­al avi­a­tion air­craft. It should be able to qual­i­fy for a mix of Part 23 and Part 27, not the pow­ered rotor ele­ments of the FAA SC-VTOL which makes it more sim­ple.

“Anoth­er aspect is the eco­nom­ics of region­al air mobil­i­ty, which is cur­rent­ly quite expen­sive because the sub-region­al jour­neys and mobil­i­ty between cities are done via road or rail. We have to come up with a solu­tion that is eco­nom­i­cal and makes sense for peo­ple to use it.

“For the air­lines, that means the max­i­mum num­ber of pas­sen­gers. A four-seater air­craft with one pilot and a whole load of dif­fer­ent facil­i­ties is now eco­nom­i­cal; we need more seats. The sin­gle rotor will give us the best per­for­mance on the ver­ti­cal light ele­ment, which allowed us to come up with an air­craft that has nine seats. That’s the biggest num­ber we can achieve from an oper­a­tional point of view, if you want­ed a pilot on the flight as well.

“Anoth­er thing is the weight lim­it for the Part 27 rotor ele­ments, which is 7,000lbs. The typ­i­cal pay­load ver­sus the MTOW ratio of a gyro air­crafts is gen­er­al­ly 45 per cent of the MTOW which is pay­load, and that’s very good. 

“But with the LINX P9, we want­ed to achieve longer ranges and high­er speeds. So the fixed wing had to be added to the design, but we then had to slow the rotor. We want this to be an elec­tric propul­sion air­craft; why can’t we gen­er­ate pow­er from the rotor when it is slow­ing down, which is sim­i­lar to the tech­nol­o­gy cur­rent­ly being used in hybrid cars.”

What is the back­ground behind the name of the air­craft?

SM: “The LINX name is because the air­craft would link the com­mu­ni­ties and cen­tres of economies to rur­al envi­ron­ments. We are very excit­ed about this because the air­craft would deliv­er real val­ue to those liv­ing there and not already con­nect­ed to the cen­tres of economies. 

“We don’t look at LINX as an air­craft, but more of an infra­struc­ture. It is one of the man­dates of the gov­ern­ment where they build roads and such facil­i­ties because peo­ple need con­nec­tiv­i­ty. 

“Instead of set­ting up more rail­way ser­vices, the LINX P9 could con­nect the towns and cities with­out the need for an air­port and at rough­ly 30 per cent of the cost of rail fares, for a sim­i­lar num­ber of pas­sen­gers to be trans­port­ed and at an afford­able cost. An exam­ple of this is that we’re look­ing to con­nect 75 towns in Scot­land with a pop­u­la­tion of 10,000 peo­ple, in a net­work of hun­dreds of these air­craft. 

“They could con­nect these com­mu­ni­ties togeth­er on a semi-sched­uled flight oper­a­tion. It’s not direct­ly sched­uled, but based on the demand of the pop­u­la­tion. In this way, we can deliv­er the val­ue of con­nec­tiv­i­ty at the speed and range which is required. It is also afford­able and envi­ron­men­tal­ly friend­ly. This is based on assess­ments we car­ried out over 15 months.

“The LINX design has two prece­dents; it is tak­ing a con­fig­u­ra­tion which is fair­ly sim­i­lar to the Fairey Roto­dyne air­craft designed back in the 1950s. The sec­ond is the scale ver­sion of this air­craft with­out the wings was the Avian gyro­plane, which was cer­ti­fied in Cana­da under Part 27 for com­mer­cial oper­a­tions with a MTOW of 2,000lbs. 

“We can go to the cer­ti­fi­ca­tion author­i­ties and say ‘look, these air­craft were cer­ti­fied back in the 1960s. We want to do sim­i­lar oper­a­tions, but with a larg­er air­craft and at a high­er capac­i­ty in the same cat­e­go­ry’. It gives us a lot of com­fort in the roadmap to cer­ti­fi­ca­tion. 

“One of the rea­sons we attend­ed this event was to talk to the air­lines, because we believe the LINX P9 can pro­vide a feed­er ser­vice. We’re pick­ing up pas­sen­gers from var­i­ous areas and then bring­ing them to major air­ports to make a con­nect­ing flight. One of the prob­lems peo­ple have is get­ting to the air­port before this jour­ney. This can make that trip of a cou­ple of hours down to 60 min­utes, which is much more bear­able.”

Would the LINX utilise exist­ing infra­struc­ture and unused air­fields?

SM: “In the US there are about 5,000 air­ports of which 97 per cent of them are under utilised. In the UK, there are more than 2,000 air­fields and aero­dromes. 

“A lot of them have closed down due to a lack of use. As the LINX emits low noise and is pow­ered by envi­ron­men­tal­ly-friend­ly fuel, it can oper­ate in those small­er air­ports in the begin­ning. And for the air­craft to land, it just needs a strip of land which is sim­i­lar to a heli­pad. 

“It needs an approach sim­i­lar to an air­craft or heli­copter, but when it comes to land­ing it doesn’t need a run­way.”

What does the roadmap look like for LINX, do you have a planned date for com­mer­cial oper­a­tions? 

SM: “We believe we can build the first full-size pro­to­type by the end of 2024, with a pro­duc­tion pro­to­type one year lat­er at the end of 2025. Hope­ful­ly dur­ing 2026 and 2027 we will be on the pro­gramme towards cer­ti­fi­ca­tion and 2028 will be when we bring the air­craft to mar­ket.”

ARC Aerosys­tems men­tioned in its lat­est press release that you are seek­ing investors. Are you able to share any updates please? 

“We are doing a Series A Fund­ing Round for £30 mil­lion. A third of that would come from gov­ern­men­tal bod­ies, finan­cial investors and strate­gic invest­ment.”

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Jason Pritchard

Jason Pritchard is the Editor of eVTOL Insights. He holds a BA from Leicester's De Montfort University and has worked in Journalism and Public Relations for more than a decade. Outside of work, Jason enjoys playing and watching football and golf. He also has a keen interest in Ancient Egypt.

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